India – Ascended Master Answers

The COVID situation in India

Question: This question is about the COVID situation in India, which in turn will probably affect the world. The second wave has been very deadly with no end in sight. Now there seems to be a new variant which is more powerful and new diseases, like black fungus and white fungus, which are just relentlessly killing people in very large numbers. When can one expect this to end? Things seem to be getting worse this year, and what can a country like India do to ease the situation? What would be the best case scenario, and how would you envision that to be achieved?

Answer from the Ascended Master Saint Germain through Kim Michaels. This answer was given during the 2021 Webinar – Ending the Era of Ideology

Well, the short term practical solution is of course, to vaccinate more people in India. But an even more short term practical solution would be to use the same precautions that have been used in other nations: wearing masks, keeping distance, avoiding large groups of people and so on. I know some will say that it is not realistic with another lockdown of India because the economy cannot handle it, but there are still certain practical measures that can be taken.

Now in terms of vaccinations, it is clear that this will require that the richer nations change their approach and are willing to donate vaccinations to India because they know that if the current spread is not stopped in India, it will affect other countries as well.

These are some of the short term solutions. But you have to recognize as we have said before that part of the reason why this pandemic has developed and spread is that it is part of the school of hard knocks. It can potentially show nations something that they have not been willing to look at so far.

And the same of course applies to India. You will see that the pandemic is worse in India, worse in Brazil and worse in the United States than in many other countries. And when you look at these three countries, you see that they all have had the same type of leader which is often called a populist leader. Modi in India, Bolsonaro in Brazil and Trump in America have had what we now call the ideological approach. They believe that they have a certain worldview, that it is infallible and they are projecting that society should work according to this, refusing to look at evidence to the contrary.

You will see that all three leaders from the beginning, downplayed the importance of the pandemic, downplayed the risks, and refused to listen to their own scientists who told them how to prevent the more widespread pandemic. And the results are undeniable, unless you are in the ideological state of consciousness where you deny any evidence that contradicts your sense of infallibility.

This is of course one thing that needs to be considered, but the more long term lesson that needs to be learned by Indian society is that Indian society needs to step up to an entirely higher approach to dealing with poverty. It is not sustainable to have a country with 1.3 billion people where the vast majority of them are living in poverty. And it is not necessary, because there is enough wealth in Indian society to raise the standard of living of the general population if it was distributed more evenly.

But when you look at the history of India, you see that India has been elitist and has allowed the concentration of wealth in the hands of an upper class and power elite. And this has been going on for thousands of years, partly because the Hindu religion has been based on an ideology that accepts this division of society into classes with a clear upper class and lower classes that must accept their station in life.

It is time to truly do away with the caste system, and the caste system mentality, the elitist mentality behind it. People were not created by God to be in different castes, different classes. All men and women are created equal and endowed by their Creator with inalienable rights, the same rights for all. India needs to step up and base its national mindset on these principles, which will require India to go through a process of seriously looking at the national mindset, the national ideology, in terms of people being considered to be in different castes, different classes, and they cannot rise from one to the other. Nor can they descend from one to the other, which is of course possible with reincarnation, even though the version of reincarnation that most Indians believe in does not allow for this. If you are born a Brahman, you are always a Brahman and so on. But it is not of course correct.

If India is to learn the lesson from this pandemic, it needs to go through this process of looking at its own history, looking at its own ideology, worldview mindset, and stepping up to a higher level that is based on a more realistic view, even a more spiritual view which would require India to do away with the rigidity of the Hindu religion, which could be done by transcending and transforming the Hindu religion or by espousing a more universal form of spirituality, or even by more people turning to Buddhism, which is not as rigid as the Hindu religion.

There are certain short term measures that can be taken, but this pandemic, not only in India but throughout the world, has pointed towards the need for long term changes. The question is, to what degree will nations be willing to learn those long term lessons and implement the necessary changes?

A practical, material renewal in India

Question: Could the ascended masters explain why many religions keep forming in India, in ancient and medieval times, including comparatively lesser-known ones such as Jainism and Sikhism? Were these influenced by the ascended masters? And why is it not happening now, considering the descending spiral of law and order, as well as religious, linguistic, social, economic, and political agenda issues in India?

Answer from the Ascended Master More through Kim Michaels. This answer was given during the 2020 Webinar – Increasing Your Christ Discernment.

Well, my beloved, India is, of course, a very vast and very complex country. What you saw in the past ages, in some areas of the world was a proliferation of new religions. Some of them were inspired by the ascended masters, at least to some degree. And this was because we attempted to renew the Indian nation, from being so stuck in the Hindu spiral, the spiral created by the Hindu religion.

What you see today is that there are not so many new religious or spiritual movements springing up because there has actually been a shift in the collective consciousness of India, where there is a certain realization that the primary goal for India right now is not a spiritual renewal but a practical, material renewal.

What really needs to happen in India is to overcome poverty. And there is no more important step that the Indian nation can take, than to raise the majority of the Indian population out of poverty. This is a necessary phase that India is going through and is engaged in. And until there has been a certain critical level reached in terms of overcoming poverty, there is no point in any religious renewal because overcoming poverty is the foundation for a spiritual and religious renewal in India.

What you have traditionally seen in India is of course, a very divided society where there was a clear elite of land owners who dominated the majority of the population who lived in such abject poverty, that they had no energy or attention left over to pursue any spiritual goals. You have seen a few people, even some who were born in poor families, who have withdrawn themselves from society, follow the guru, join the monastery, and therefore have pursued a spiritual path. But this has all only been for the select few.

And what needs to happen is, of course, that India moves to a position where more and more people among the population can find a true valid spiritual teaching that teaches about a spiritual path to a higher state of consciousness and follow it. And this will not be the Hindu religion, because it is too stuck in tradition and rituals. There can be other new spiritual movements that spring up, but it simply cannot happen until there’s enough people who have been raised out of this poverty, where they can really actually follow a spiritual path. You might say that for India, pursuing material growth is actually a spiritual endeavor. This will not be forever of course, but at least for the time being.

Ascended master teachings and Indian gurus

Question: I am from India and I find it very strange that I’m the only one I know of from India who is following the ascended master teachings. This country has a population of 1.3 billion people and has produced many, many spiritual mature beings. What is making this country lag behind so much in spiritual attainment? And what’s the best approach to wake up this nation? I know Master MORE has said some time back that it’s the gurus who refuse to acknowledge the ascended masters, people like Satguru, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar and Brahma Kumaris’ movement have huge followings. But how much are they really helping their followers? I would like to know the thoughts of the Masters.

Answer from the Ascended Master Master MORE through Kim Michaels. This answer was given during the 2020 Webinar – Choosing America’s Future.

Well, we have in the past attempted to reach students in India through the Theosophical movement and had fairly limited success with this. In the recent dispensations of the I AM Movement, the Summit Lighthouse and this one, we have had even more limited success reaching students in India. Part of this is of course that India has a rich spiritual tradition, more rich than most western countries. There is a tradition of finding a guru. There are still valid personal gurus in India, so people who are open to the spiritual path can find these teachings in their own culture.

I will say that there is of course, an Indian black brotherhood of false gurus who are not only seeking to mislead students in the West but also in India themselves. And it is clear that there is a blockage in the collective consciousness in India against recognizing ascended masters. This is not unique to India as you will find it at most other nations. In most nations influenced by the Christian religion, the Christian religion has created a blockage against recognizing ascended masters and it is no different in India. Part of it is the Hindu tradition of course, that doesn’t recognize anything really beyond the Brahmins and the gods of the Hindu Pantheon, but nevertheless.

This is not something we are overly concerned about. We are gratified that there are students in India who are studying the teachings but we are really not looking to attract a large number of followers to this dispensation from India.

It is clear that if you look at India as a nation, you will see that there are some gurus who have become more famous and gather a larger and larger following. In general, I would say that when a guru becomes very popular, it is usually because the teachings of that guru do not go beyond a certain level. That is why so many people can lock into it and follow it. The guru somehow gives these people what they want. He gives them a convenient path that is fairly easy to follow, but not one that really requires them to look at themselves, heal their psychology and raise their consciousness.

Now, if you look at the world at large and not just India, there is a question that many ascended master students have asked themselves: “If it is true that humankind is raising its consciousness and that this growth in consciousness is happening because of the ascended masters who are the universal teachers for all of mankind, why is not it so that there is a greater and greater recognition of ascended masters? For example, if there is a guru who has reached a high level of consciousness why is not he recognizing ascended masters? Why did Paramahansa Yogananda not write about ascended masters in his book, beyond the few veiled mentions you can find?

And the answer to that is not just one single answer. Each guru that is a valid guru, has a certain group of people that he is meant to reach. Depending on what level of consciousness these people are in, they may not be ready to recognize ascended masters. This means the task of this guru is not to make them recognize ascended masters, but to raise them from their present level to a certain level of consciousness from which they can then continue to grow. It is not so that every valid guru is meant to eventually come to recognize ascended masters. Because not all people are ready for this.

But of course, there is also the false hierarchy, the false gurus, both in India and elsewhere and they will not recognize ascended masters because we are of course the ones who can free the students from the influence of false gurus. Now you can look at planet Earth and you can see that there are valid gurus that are meant to raise the consciousness of the students. If the students continue to raise their consciousness, they will eventually, most of them, find ascended masters and their teaching. But still, you cannot say that all spiritual people on earth are meant to eventually find the ascended masters. There are other different paths. And it is important that there are people who demonstrate each valid path so that the many people who are at lower levels of consciousness can find a path that appeals to them.

As I said, not everybody is ready for the path that we offer. But what can be said is that there are of course many false gurus and the false gurus will lead people astray in various ways and they will insert blockages in people’s minds that will prevent them from growing beyond a certain level of the path. There are false gurus that cause their students to have a certain level of growth but then they stop and they find it very difficult to go beyond that level.

For these students who have followed a false guru, it can be very, very difficult to get onto the true path without using the ascended masters teachings. Because we are the only ones who have the necessary level of consciousness and experience to help a student overcome this blockage of having followed a false guru. Many of these students could naturally benefit from considering our teachings. But unfortunately, this requires them to be much more open minded and much more willing to look beyond their previous teaching. Because the false gurus have often in very subtle ways inserted these blockages in people’s minds that prevents them from recognizing the ascended masters.

Spiritual perspective on the situation in India

Question: My question is about India and her leader Narendra Modi. Since the coronavirus situation has come up, the biggest concern to me is the horror being experienced by the poorest section of society. What is required for the people to address and become aware of how to help these poor people. Also, I cannot discern what type of leader Modi is. He comes across as more of a one man show, kind of dictatorial, whereas India is a democracy. The views of people are starkly divided where some people love and idolize him while others find him a fake pretending to do good for the nation. Would the masters like to share a higher perspective?

Answer from the Ascended Master Saint Germain through Kim Michaels. This answer was given at the 2020 Webinar for the Liberation of Women.

Well, there are many nations in the world, and India is certainly one of them but not by any means the only one, that are in a sort of interim phase. They are in the process of making a transition to a higher level but the collective consciousness is still stuck in the past. Some of the nations cannot attract a higher level of leader. Some may attract one leader that is at a higher level and then regress and attract another leader that is not at a higher level and they go back and forth like this because there’s something that people can’t break free of.

Now, in several of these nations it’s the same pattern you see. The nations have had clearly elitist tendencies in the past. Most nations have had this and so even though these nations have become democracies they have not fully let go of this elitist mindset that is in the collective consciousness. I mean not just that the elite hasn’t let go but that the population hasn’t let go either. What you see in some of these nations is that before the advent of democracy there was a very clear power elite, a financial economic elite that had privileged positions.

You saw this in India before the British came, to some degree even after the British came where the British of course became the overall power elite ruling India. But since India became an independent nation and a democracy, India should have moved away from these elitist tendencies. What you see is that India hasn’t actually done this. There is still a power elite. an economic financial elite in India that has tremendous influence on the government even though the government is elected by the people. What you also see in India and several other nations is that you have seen improvement in the economic situation, it is just that that improvement has so far been very selective and, as you point out, there is still a large group of people in India who live below the poverty level.

What has happened is that there is now a growing number of people who, so to speak, form a middle class. They have gotten better jobs, they have gotten better living conditions, they are beginning to see that they can buy a house, they can buy a car, they can isolate themselves from the worst poverty and they want this and they realize that their wealth and the jobs they are getting are coming from the financial power elite who own the large businesses and corporations.

Actually, these people who are, really were part of the population, the general population, they have now adopted a certain elitist mindset where they no longer see themselves as part of the population. They see a distinction between themselves and all of the poor people and they realize that they are not part of the upper elite, but they think they can still become part of the elite because they can attain that higher status, that higher wealth, and so they want to uphold that system. This means that even though they may not be consciously aware of it and even though they may not be deliberately or maliciously deciding to do this—by clinging to their lifestyle and their fulfillment of their dream they are essentially accepting that a large part of the population continues to live beneath the poverty level.

As we have said many times, a country will elect the kind of leader that out pictures what goes on in the collective consciousness and so India has attracted a leader that is open to these elitist tendencies, is open to certain dark forces and therefore would like to be almost like a dictator who had more power to do things. He also believes that maintaining the status quo with a certain power elite is necessary and therefore he also implicitly accepts that a large part of the Indian population will continue to live in poverty. It’s not really a reality but that’s what he thinks and that’s what many people in India think both in the power elite and in the middle class.

Even some among the poor people think that it is not realistic that they could improve their lot, that it will take beyond their lifetime, maybe their children will have a better life but they don’t think they can have it. This is an out picturing of the collective consciousness.

There is no easy solution to this unfortunately. There needs to be a shift where there is more of a solidarity in the population where those in the middle class begin to say: “But wait a minute now, why shouldn’t everyone deserve to have the material standard of living that we have? Why should we accept that we are living a comfortable life when so many people are living in poverty? Why should we actually accept this?”

This is what you see in some of the more advanced modern democracies where, for example, in the Scandinavian countries and Canada you see this solidarity between the middle class and the lower class, if you want to talk about classes, where the people have said: “We want everybody to have a decent standard of living”, the same in Germany and several other countries in Europe. Where you don’t see it is America and that is why America is also one of these nations that is in this interim phase. It can’t really attract the higher kind of leader that can take America decisively towards the golden age and so it attracts these leaders that out picture certain tendencies in the collective psyche.

The spiritual role of India

Question: What is the spiritual role of India?

Answer from the Ascended Master Master More through Kim Michaels. This answer was given at a conference in Novosibirsk, Russia in 2017.

You recognise my beloved, that we are talking about a nation with 1.3 billion people and so there is no simple easy answer to a question like this because naturally the spiritual role of any country is to promote the growth of consciousness of the people living within that country.

Naturally you know that India has a very long tradition of often what we have called the Guru – chela relationship. You have a long history of Indian guru’s, some of them work independently others have a lineage and pay homage to the lineage. Truly you will see that relatively few or rather very few of these guru’s acknowledge ascended masters as part of their lineage.

This is actually the primary factor that is holding back the spiritual growth of the Indian nation. This has many ramifications for India, one of them is that India has a certain national pride of wanting to be self-sufficient enough in itself and this often prevents the Indian people from learning from other nations. You will even, if you know about of the life of Ghandi, that at one point he had a good Christian minister as part of his group and he asked him to leave because he felt the Indian people had to do this on their own. This is one expression of this national pride because truly is there any people on the earth that is on their own? Is there any people that is isolated from the collective consciousness of humanity as a whole? – Certainly not.

You may look at individual nations and you may tend to consider them as being self-sufficient units, independent separated , isolated units but they are not they are all part of the collective consciousness of humanity and you cannot truly understand the role of any nation without seeing its place as part of the whole.

India as I said has an old tradition of paying homage to the spiritual path, teaching many people about the spiritual path that they can walk individually but they also have a very old tradition of separating the spiritual path from everyday material life.

Often looking down upon those who live a worldly existence, again this is part of the national pride where many of the spiritual people have been lured into this subtle sense of pride that because they are walking the spiritual path because they are born in a nation with this old tradition they are somehow more evolved than the people of other nations. What has Jesus said, “Christhood that is not expressed in serving the whole is not Christhood” You can see that for many, many centuries even before the British came to India, India had the spiritual tradition on one side and therefore in a sense had many people who had walked the spiritual path, reached a certain level of consciousness. But they also had the highest level of poverty, some of the poorest material conditions with so many people living in very poor conditions.

So how can the two coexist in the one nation? Well only because those who are the spiritual people have not stepped up to that level of Christhood where instead of following an individual path that seeks to raise their consciousness higher and higher, they are now using their attainment to improve the situation for others.

Now they all have reasons for this, many of the gurus and the students and I know them well having spent some time in India in various embodiments even having my retreat at Darjeeling where I am in tune with whatever goes on in the nation. Truly many of these gurus and students have not been willing to step up to that level where they selflessly serve the whole and where they recognise that it is not enough to raise your individual consciousness if people are still suffering.

We might, to use an expression familiar with the region and say they have not stepped up to the bodhisattva ideal even though many of them would dispute that statement and see it differently. My beloved you cannot have a country where 95 or 98% of the people live in abject poverty. You have all these guru sitting in their ashrams gathering students around themselves who are isolating themselves and refusing to see the poor material conditions.

The challenge facing the Indian nation right now is, can they overcome this very, very old tendency. Can they come to appoint where they make more peace with the matter realm. Where instead of looking down at the matter realm thinking they have to isolate themselves from it, they see that improving conditions for other people is very much a spiritual activity and part of the spiritual path.

We might say that currently the growth of the Indian nation is not driven by the gurus and their students it is driven by those who are taking active measures to improve some aspect of society even if they may be competitive business who are on the surface doing this out of their drive for competition but still they are helping to improve the standard of living, create economic growth build infrastructure and therefore take India to the point where it can be a modern nation.

If I am to be completely honest and direct with you and it is rather difficult for me to be other than completely honest then I would have to say that the primary factor that has kept India from evolving into a fully modern nation is precisely the gurus.

Now we have talked before that there is a black brotherhood of India of false gurus who are seeking to ensnare people into the false path and many people have been ensnared into pursuing what they see as spiritual growth. Many of these people have managed to have certain high spiritual experiences but has it been true spiritual growth? Well what is true spiritual growth my beloved? Is it that you indefinitely seek to raise your own consciousness and ignore all other people? Nah! my beloved because there comes a point where spiritual growth means that you consciously recognise the need to come into oneness, come into oneness first off all with something that is beyond the material realm, your I AM Presence and the ascended masters and then come into horizontal oneness with all people here below so that you seek to raise the whole

This is the false path where people seek higher and higher experiences and what they get is not true spiritual experiences. How can I say this? Because I have my retreat in Darjeeling India because it is part of my role as an ascended master to work with the more advanced spiritual students in India, those who manifest a degree of Christhood. I am therefor the primary representative of Christ for the Indian nation and that means very simply that when people step up to a certain level of Christhood they recognise me. They recognise that I exist and that I am the one who can take them higher. If they do not recognise my role in hierarchy, they have not stepped up to Christhood; it is that simple my beloved.

Those who do not recognise Christ in Jesus have not stepped up to a certain level of Christhood no matter how many outer rituals they have followed in their Christian churches. Those of the modern self-help gurus who have not stepped up and recognised the ascended masters, they also have not stepped up beyond a certain level of Christhood regardless of how many followers they gather who see them as enlightened beings.

What does it mean to be enlightened if the term has any meaning, it means that you recognise who you are and when you recognise who you are; you recognise that you are part of a whole and then you acknowledge that whole. So why have so many of the gurus of India not recognised the ascended masters? They have not stepped up to that level of Christhood. This could not be done in previous ages where we were not allowed to reveal our existence publicly but it certainly can be done now.