Kazakhstan – Ascended Master Answers

Radical Islam in Kazakhstan

Question: More and more Kazakh youth are getting involved in radical Islamic movements. For example, Wahhabism. Is this a threat to the security of Kazakhstan? Who is behind this?

Answer from the Ascended Master Mother Mary through Kim Michaels. This answer was given during the 2023 Kazakhstan Conference.

Well, at present it is not a threat, but if it attracts more people, it could of course become so. Who is behind it? Well, ultimately the fallen beings who are using any extremist fanatical movement to try to create conflict in society. This is not necessarily that they have some agenda of taking over Kazakhstan. They are just so focused on spreading their version of Islam that they think they are doing God’s work and they actually think that creating conflict is part of God’s work.

If you are concerned about this, make the calls for the exposure of it or do whatever you can do given your position to raise awareness of this.

Oligarchy in Kazakhstan

Question: Most of the country’s resources remain in the hands of Nazarbayev’s oligarchs, such as Mittal, Mashkevitch, Kim (not Michaels), Klebanov, and Nazarbayev’s family. Recently, a law on the return of capital was adopted in our country, but it seems that all this does not bother these oligarchs who are simply successfully adjusting to the new government. Is it really possible to return stolen assets to the state and the people? Why are the president and the government having full power, not making any concrete efforts to return the capital and bring Nazarbayev, his family, and the oligarchs to criminal responsibility? Is the law of the return of capital just a screen to distract the eyes, while in fact there are some agreements between the old and new Kazakhstan and there will be a redistribution of the country’s resources between political elites?

Answer from the Ascended Master Saint Germain through Kim Michaels. This answer was given during the 2023 Kazakhstan Conference.

Well, as I have commented on in the answer to a previous question, yes, there is such an agreement. It is not a clearly spoken agreement. It is more of an awareness that you can have politicians that are elected by the people, but there is a limit to what reforms they can carry out as long as the oligarchs have the influence they have on society. As I have attempted to explain with China, there is also an uncertainty in the Kazakh government. There is no clear vision of where do they want to take Kazakhstan.

The oligarchs do not really have a clear vision of where they want to take the country. They are largely reactionary, wanting to maintain their privileged position. And you will see the same pattern in many other countries. You can see other former Soviet republics or even Warsaw Pact countries where there was a certain elite under communism who had privileged positions. And some of these managed to gain privileged positions after communism was abandoned, so that they now have influence on the economic situation in the country. They have their own companies that have privileged positions. These people are reactionary. They want to maintain their own positions, so they do not have a clear vision of where they want to take the country. You have a government that is elected by the people and they got elected by making promises about reforms, but they do not really have a clear vision of, number one, what kind of reforms they want to enact, and number two, how this could be done without running into conflict with the oligarchs and the established elite.

You see a government sitting between two chairs, trying to maintain a facade towards the people, trying to maintain the sense of security of the elite. And this is, of course, not unique to Kazakhstan. You have seen the same in many other countries. If you go back to most of the countries that are the modern democracies today, you will see that 100 years ago or more they had a very similar situation where the country was divided between the desire for true reform and the old elite that resisted it. Right now, the best you can do as spiritual people is to keep a positive vision, keep making the calls, but also have a certain patience and realize that this is a process that takes time. You might look at other countries, such as the Baltics or some European nations that were part of the Warsaw Pact, and you can see that these countries have made more reforms than Kazakhstan has done at the present level. But you also have to realize that Kazakhstan was in a special situation because it did not go from a communist system to a completely democratic system because of Nazarbayev, who had the position he had, and even though he enacted certain reforms and was certainly more reform-minded than the communist governments, still it held the development of Kazakhstan back compared to some of these other nations.

But you see that they have gone through a similar process. It is just that because they have had more time, they are further along. Kazakhstan is moving in the same direction. There is no question about this, but it will take time before there are these major breakthroughs.

China’s true intentions towards Kazakhstan

Question: President Tokayev pursues an open policy towards China. For example: visa-free visits to Kazakhstan by Chinese citizens for up to three months have recently been introduced. Benefits and privileges are also provided in various economic projects. What are China’s true intentions towards our country?

Answer from the Ascended Master Saint Germain through Kim Michaels. This answer was given during the 2023 Kazakhstan Conference.

Well, I could tell you what China’s true intentions towards Kazakhstan are if China knew itself what its intentions are. You see, the Chinese government, the current Chinese government, is a good example of what you find in many countries around the world right now, where the Chinese government itself does not actually know what it wants. It has a better awareness of what it does not want than what it actually wants. You see a certain wavering, a certain indecision.

You see, for example, a lack of a willingness to clearly step in and do something about the economic situation, such as the crisis in real estate companies. You see how there was for a long time this Zero-COVID policy and then all of a sudden it was abandoned, going from one extreme to the other. You see how government ministers have disappeared without any explanation and you might think that it is typical for a totalitarian government that they want to maintain secrecy. But they are actually maintaining secrecy because they do not know how to present this in a way that will not make themselves look bad.

You see a government that is in upheaval, that is insecure, uncertain. You may look at President Xi in China and think that he has greater power than any president since Mao and surely, he has some agenda of establishing China as a major world power. But in reality, he and many of the people in the government are almost in a state of panic because they, of course, know more about the state of the Chinese economy than the people or even the media, even the media outside of China. And they are beginning very slowly to realize that China has really, to use a popular expression, dug a very deep hole for itself and they do not see how China can get out of it.

Now, why do they not see how China can get out of it? Because they are not willing to abandon communism, they are not willing to truly change the structure of the government, to give more autonomy to the regions and less power to the central government. They are not willing to really change the centralized system. In fact, Xi has been trying to strengthen the centralized system, but it is precisely the centralized system that has created the current crisis in China, because it is a crisis regardless of the happy face that the government tries to put on.

And this crisis cannot be solved by the current governmental structure. China needs to decide, does it want to be a communist country, or does it want to be an affluent, prosperous country because material affluence for the population is not compatible with a communist political ideology.

Until there has been a shift in China, China does not know what it wants to do concerning Taiwan, concerning Kazakhstan, concerning other neighboring nations. You see how there is a move in one direction one week and a move in the other direction another week. You see how they are building up their military, which means that at some point they could potentially decide to attack Taiwan, but they have not decided: “We are definitely going to attack Taiwan when we are strong enough.” You could say that there are some within the Chinese government who would like to take over Kazakhstan and gain the resources that are in Kazakhstan, but there are others that would be against this because they know this will have a cost concerning China’s standing in the world.

There are no direct plans to take over Kazakhstan. As I am saying, the Chinese government does not know what it wants to do, what its intentions are. You could say that there is a certain collective beast in the Chinese government that has this dream of expanding the Chinese empire, just as there is a collective beast in Russia around Putin’s government, just as there was a collective beast in Nazi Germany. But these beasts are not self-aware. They are more like computers that are pursuing a goal of greatness without really defining what it means. In China there is a certain element of the government that has this dream of the greatness of the Chinese empire and of dominating the world or providing an alternative to the United States and the dominance of the West as they see it. But they do not have a clear vision of what does that actually mean. And first of all, they do not have a clear vision of what it would take to achieve this goal. They are not able to define a series of logical steps that will lead from here to there, and they are not even attempting to define these steps because if they were to try to define these steps, they would see that the plan is unrealistic.

Putin, before he invaded Ukraine, went through a certain decision-making process. But he was also blinded by these delusions of grandeur, we might call it, and he thought it would be easy to achieve his goal. He did not sit down with his advisors and create a logical step-by-step plan for how his goals could be achieved because had he done so, he or at least his advisors would have seen that this is simply not realistic. Not to get distracted from the topic of China, but it is the same dynamic in China. They have an idealistic goal but no practical, realistic vision of how to achieve it.

What is the answer? Well, the answer is that there is currently no answer. As spiritual people, you can, of course, make calls for the protection of your nation, and you can make calls about the Chinese nation coming to clarity about what kind of a nation it wants to be.

Can President Tokayev reform Kazakhstan?

Question: Can you please comment on the personality of President Tokayev, Kazakhstan’s president. After the well-known bloody coup in January 2022, the people enthusiastically supported his intentions to undertake cardinal reforms and build a new Kazakhstan. However, the pre-scheduled presidential and parliamentary elections have shown that significant changes will hardly happen and nowadays apathy and distrust are clearly felt in our society. Does he have sincere intentions to bring real changes and can he take Kazakhstan to a higher level? Does he have an attunement with the ascended masters, or is Tokayev just a populist?

Answer from the Ascended Master Saint Germain through Kim Michaels. This answer was given during the 2023 Kazakhstan Conference.

As we have said before, a government is always somewhat a reflection of the collective consciousness of a country. There are still some deep divisions in Kazakh society, and there are still many people who, you would not have them say this if you asked them consciously, but subconsciously they do not really want Kazakh society to change, because they are longing back to the old ways where they had more security like it was in Soviet times.

What is happening here is that any government is kind of between these two states. When I say that there is a faction of the population that does not want change, there is a certain faction of the general population, but there is, of course, a power elite in Kazakhstan that go back both to Soviet times and also to President Nazarbayev where they were put in privileged positions. You can call them oligarchs, but they are not all necessarily business people. There are also people in various aspects of society that have these privileged positions and they do not want a change that could threaten their positions.

What you are seeing in Kazakhstan is what you see in many other countries, that there is a division, there is a pull in different directions, and so far, those who do not want change, have been the strongest. The president, at a certain level, has an intention to reform Kazakh society. On another level he realizes that he came to power as is held in power because he is in good standing with the elite. So he is divided in himself, he does not really know how to carry out reforms in a way that brings real reform without threatening the elite.

If you want to have an honest assessment, he is not the one who will bring change to Kazakhstan. It will take another leader to do so, but this leader cannot really come to power until there has been a shift in the population where a critical mass of people is determined that it is enough with the old ways and that it is necessary to bring change and it needs to start now.

Even though there is some discouragement and distrust now because things did not go as many people hoped, you need to continue, you need to continue to hold a positive vision. I am talking about people in general, but you who are the spiritual people need to also hold a positive vision, continue to make the calls and you will see that there will be gradual changes. At some point a new leader will emerge, who can bring true democratic reforms and who is really dedicated to democracy.

The current situation in Kazakhstan

Question: This question is about the current situation in Kazakhstan. We, the spiritual people in Kazakhstan, were very happy when Nazarbayev, himself decided to resign from the post of president. However, all his subsequent actions demonstrated how much he is obsessed with his power, the cult of his own personality, and the fear of losing his power and the influence of his family. He created a new position, “Leader of the Nation”, which is higher than the post of president. He allowed the capital to be renamed after his own name against the wishes of the people of Kazakhstan. The acting president, a puppet of Nazarbayev announced early elections in Kazakhstan, thus depriving other parties the opportunity to prepare for the elections, except the Nazarbayev party. This party is likely to nominate Nazarbayev’s daughter as a candidate for the presidency. The question is, will Kazakhstan be able to avoid this scenario, so that power will not remain in a family and in such a corrupt government? And is the leader of the main opposition party, the democratic choice of Kazakhstan, a worthy replacement for Nazarbayev’s presidency, and for the current government?

Answer from the Ascended Master Saint Germain through Kim Michaels. This answer was given at a conference in Korea in 2019.

As we have already commented on, it is a step in the right direction that President Nazarbayev has decided to step down. Now, it’s clear that he has remained in the post he has been in for as long as he has, because he has certain issues of a psychological nature, as you correctly stated, the desire to create a certain personality cult around him.

Nevertheless, it is a step in the right direction. It’s clear that this does not mean that he will give up all power immediately, but it does mean that a movement has started that will move Kazakhstan in the right direction. It is also clear that this has happened, partly as a result of the many invocations that people in Kazakhstan have been giving, and, of course, the conferences that you have held in Kazakhstan, where we have released light.

And so, you should be encouraged by what has happened, but you should also take a longer view and not expect immediate and dramatic changes. It’s perfectly true that those who are in power, will seek to hold-on to power. But it is also clear that there is an opening in the Kazakh government, otherwise, this would not have happened in the first place, because most people expected Nazarbayev to remain in power for life. It isn’t in the short term, so important who is nominated for president of which party wins the election, because whoever gets power, in the short term, will find it difficult to hold on to that power.

It’s simply a matter of what does it take for the leaders of the Kazakh government to truly let go of power, even the family of Nazarbayev to give up their desire or their claim for power, so that there can be a truly democratic election, and a new democratically elected government. You have already created a situation with your calls that will expose these attempts to hold on to power. You will see that if, for example, the daughter of the president is elected, there will be clear weaknesses in her ability to exercise power. This will expose the need for further reforms. So in the long term, it will move Kazakhstan in the right direction. The details are not as important as the fact that the nation is moving in the direction of becoming a free democratic nation.

Extreme forms of Islam in Kazakhstan

Question: Recently there has been a tendency in Kazakhstan and in Central Asian Countries that many people have decided to follow an extreme way of Islam. Such as men growing long beards or women who are covered from head to toe in the hajib that is not normal for Kazakh culture and tradition. Is this phenomenon potentially dangerous for Kazakhstan and for the Central Asian Countries?

Answer from the Ascended Master Mother Mary through Kim Michaels. This answer was given at a conference in Kazakhstan in 2018

Yes, naturally this is not a development that we encourage in any way but the only way to explain it is to say that again sometimes people have to outplay things to the extreme before they see that it is unbalanced and come to a greater sense of balance.

If you feel concerned about this, you can make calls for the binding and judgement of the dark forces behind the entire phenomenon of fundamentalist Islam or other extreme forms of Islam and for that matter, any extreme form of any religion.

Kazakhstan’s international presence in the world

Question: What is the problem of the modern Kazakhstan? Is there a demographic problem? Kazakhstan has a very small population but its territory is very large also Kazakhstan is very rich in resources that are desired by its neighbours, the two superpowers Russia and China. Is there something in the national psychology of the Kazakh people which makes this nation vulnerable? How do we overcome the demographic problem for Kazakhstan?

Answer from the Ascended Master Saint Germain through Kim Michaels. This answer was given at a conference in Kazakhstan in 2018

Well the demographic problem is of course not something you can overcome because you can’t change the demographics unless of course you give away territory to your neighbours and the country becomes smaller. That is of course not what I envision. What I envision is that gradually as the collective consciousness is raised there will be an emergence of a stronger national identity but at a much higher level than has been there before. This will allow the Kazakh people to become a self-governing nation with a strong enough national sense of identity that they will not be overrun by their neighbours.

I will say that, in this respect it is important that you open more ties to the West and that you continue the transition already begun by the current President especially in terms of adopting the Latin alphabet and other changes that opens up Kazakhstan to having more of an international presence. The reason why I say this is that the situation is in a sense, very clear. What can prevent Kazakhstan from being interfered with by its big neighbours in the future is a more international awareness. In other words that the international community around the world becomes more aware of Kazakhstan as a nation, more aware of the Kazakh people’s right to live in their own country without being dominated by Russia or China.

Now my beloved, whatever you may think of your current President, let me tell you that if you had not had a dominant, strong President that could hold Russia and China at bay, you would already have had much more interference from your two big neighbours than you have. You could say that even because of the threat of interference from the North and the South, Kazakhstan needed this very strong leadership in order to create a deterrent for China and Russia. You could even say that to some degree the longevity of the current President depends somewhat on this very delicate situation both in Russia and China, how aggressive the leadership is, when there will be a leadership change in these two nations or when the awareness of the international community will shift so that there isn’t such a big risk that China or Russia will move in if a vacuum is created by the current President no longer being there.

Envision a gradual peaceful change in Kazakhstan

Question: Kazakhstan has reached a certain level of change in almost all spheres of the country. The question is about a change of government. Has the consciousness of the people matured enough to initiate the impeachment of the current government or is there a risk of going through the same experience as Ukraine?

Answer from the Ascended Master Saint Germain through Kim Michaels. This answer was given at a conference in Kazakhstan in 2018

I strongly recommend that no violent, drastic steps are taken in Kazakhstan at this time but that you have a certain patience and allow the collective consciousness to continue to rise. I’m speaking this of course into the mass consciousness in the hopes that some will pick up on the need to be patient and allow things to unfold rather than seeking to take things by force.

As you say, Kazakhstan has grown in many areas of society and it is better to continue this gradual change than to seek to create a violent revolution of some kind which is far too likely to plunge the country into unrest and chaos. This would not be the same as in Ukraine because the collective consciousness is different in Kazakhstan and the Kazakh people are generally much more peaceful. Kazakhstan is not in the same way, divided between an eastern and a western part, at least, not with the same dynamic as Ukraine.

So envision a gradual peaceful change instead of a violent revolution or even a political revolution that still creates an abrupt change.

Kazakhstan and China’s expansion

Question: Should Kazakhstan and/or the other Central Asian countries worry about the expansion of China to Kazakhstan and to these countries?

Answer from the Ascended Master Mother Mary through Kim Michaels. This answer was given at a conference in Kazakhstan in 2018

China is at present an unpredictable country because of the mass consciousness – the collective consciousness of the Chinese people being at a point where they find it difficult to decide which way they really want to go. You see the latest developments with the President taking on more powers than any President since Mao Tse Tung. This is a troubling sign in the sense that it makes the situation less predictable. There is a reason for all neighbouring countries to be mindful of what is happening in China. I am not necessarily saying you should worry about this.

In Kazakhstan you have more of a traditional alliance with Russia that would discourage China from expanding into Kazakhstan. It is something to make the calls on if you feel moved to do so from within. Certainly it is not so that we are foreseeing any imminent danger of a Chinese invasion because this would actually be too detrimental to China’s long term strategy of expanding their influence in the world through economic factors.

I am simply pointing out that the more a country has a centralized leadership structure where decisions are made by one person it becomes more difficult to predict what that person is going to choose to do if a crisis situation occurs where the person suddenly feels that his position or the long term strategy of the country is threatened.

The collective consciousness of Kazakhstan

Question: Is there any change in the collective consciousness of Kazakhstan since the last conference?

Answer from the Ascended Master Mother Mary through Kim Michaels. This answer was given at a conference in Kazakhstan in 2018

Yes, my Beloved there is a positive, uplifting and encouraging change. We ascribe this to various factors but as we have described to you before even a small group of people can have a decisive influence in these situations where it is a close call whether it will go this way or that way. I wish to honour the people who have given our calls and invocations, who have worked on raising their own consciousness because you have triggered more of an upward momentum than otherwise would have happened. We are hopeful that this nation will continue to grow gradually towards a brighter future.

The president of Kazakhstan, N. Nazarbayev

Question: The question is about the president of Kazakhstan, Mr. Nazarbayev. What type of personality is he? What does he hide from the people? What is he afraid of? In 2011 Saint Germain said that the people of Kazakhstan are lucky to have such a leader. What does he mean and what is going on in Kazakhstan now on the political scene, what changed since 2011?

Answer from the Ascended Master Saint Germain through Kim Michaels. This answer was given at a conference in Novosibirsk, Russia in 2017.

Naturally, we will find opportunity to speak more about this when we have a conference in Kazakhstan next year. Nevertheless, many people have looked at this remark that I made and deliberately or perhaps ignorantly misinterpreted it. I didn’t mean that they were lucky to have such a leader in the sense that this was the perfect or ideal leader, but they were lucky in the sense that they could have had a leader that was far worse than what they have, and they could have had a leader who was not open to any kind of change.

Naturally in any country where you have a leader who cannot really be challenged by the political system, you will have things going on behind the scenes. Such a leader will always be afraid of being overthrown by a violent revolution and losing his or her grip on power. Nevertheless, there have been important reforms made in Kazakhstan including the shift to a western alphabet. Many other changes are in the works and there is an awareness on the part of the president of this need to ensure that the country is not thrown into a crisis when he eventually either dies or has to retire. So therefore, this is an example of a person who although he still maintains a clearly dictatorial form of government is a better example than most of the other leaders out there who have that same kind of power.

The Golden Age in Kazakhstan

Question: We have a question about our country Kazakhstan, the first is what is the main block in the national consciousness, the Kazakhstan nation in order to accelerate mass consciousness into the Golden Age.

Answer from the Ascended Master Saint Germain through Kim Michaels. This answer was given at a conference in Korea in 2017.

The main block is really that there are too many people who do not want to take responsibility for themselves. With this I mean take responsibility for making their own personal decisions. That is why after the break up of the Soviet Union – Kazakhstan did not transition into a democratic society but attracted a person who for all practical purposes has been functioning as a dictator. Now I know there are various degrees of dictators and as I have said before I do not consider the Kazakh President to be in the worst category of dictators. He actually has a certain restraint and wisdom.

Nevertheless it is clear that in the Golden Age we see that all countries will have democracy. And therefore when a country does not have democracy but attracted a more dictatorial leader then it is because the people of that country, not enough of them have been willing to take responsibility for their own lives and for their nation. So this is the first thing to make calls on. And I know this is a somewhat abstract topic because there are many aspects of this not wanting to take responsibility. But you can of course look back at the dictations that were given at our conferences in Kazakhstan and then you can gain further insights from that, and further topics for making calls.

The transition to democracy in Kazakhstan

Question: We fear the situation in our country, Kazakhstan. We understand that the time of our respectable ruler, our President, is coming to an end, because of his age. Many people fear what the future of the country will be. What can we do as a Christ involvement as a people who want to be part of our country, society and region, to help change the system without any revolutions or changes with violence, without fighting between national groups.

Answer from Ascended Master MORE through Kim Michaels.

One of the reasons why we encourage the transition to democracy worldwide is precisely that if a country has a very strong leader, then there will always be a power vacuum when that leader can no longer govern as, of course, time respects no man and therefore time eventually runs out for everyone. What you have in Kazakhstan is a situation where you do not have as many factions that are opposing each other as you see in many other nations. You will, for example, see in Iraq where Sunni and Shia Muslims and the Kurds form three very powerful blocks that all vie for power.

Because of the nature of the Kazakh people and their peace flame and their tolerance, you do not run the same risk here. Certainly, there will always be groups who will seek for any opportunity to take power. You, as the spiritual people, can envision and hold the vision that your President, while he has time, will institute and set in motion the change to a democratically elected government.

This is, of course, the vision that we of the ascended masters hold for Kazakhstan, as we do for most other nations on earth. It is realistic that the change can happen without any revolution or even major bloodshed. This is the vision that you can hold as the spiritual people. You can also hold the vision, of course, that more and more people in Kazakhstan will step up to what Saint Germain talked about, the level of Christ consciousness that allows them to be the open doors for the ideas and even for taking the actions that will facilitate a peaceful transition into a more democratic society. I can assure you that there are already people in the government who are wrestling with the very same question, including the President himself.

Thus, you can hold the vision that those who are the more balanced people will catch the highest possible vision of how this transition can take place. You can also hold the vision that those who are not yet part of the government will be awakened to step in and fulfill their roles so that this nation can build on its upward spiral and work towards greater prosperity for everyone by sharing the wealth from the natural resources, so that they do not go to an elite and so that they do not go to foreign companies.

You can, of course, also hold the vision and you can make the calls for the protection of the integrity of the nation from foreign interests. With that I, of course, include the big neighbor to the North, the big neighbor to the South, but also the international corporations and financial interests that are always seeking for an inroad into any nation, especially when that nation has great natural resources.

You must, though, understand that in any nation the consciousness of the people must be allowed to outplay itself so that the people can have an opportunity to see why they had the leader they had and why they may have difficulties making the transition to a more democratic system.

You will notice, when you look back at Europe for example, that you had many countries that had a very old history and they struggled to make a peaceful transition into a more democratic system. What is happening now both in Kazakhstan and in many other nations, especially the former Soviet Republics, is that after having been under the Soviet Union for so many years, they now are facing the situation of having to make the transition into a more democratic form of government much more quickly than the older nations or the nations of Europe.

This, of course, creates a very complex situation where you have the main concern being: “Are there enough people who can step up and provide a new form of government to replace the old one without these people forming a new elite to replace the old elite, as you for example saw in France and several other nations?” It is clear, of course, that when you have a ruler as you have had in this nation, there will be a certain elite forming around him. You need to hold the vision that the more balanced people in the government will prevent that another elite takes over and seeks to create a system where the people do not have freedom to choose their own representatives. This is something you can make calls for in your decrees and rosaries, and you can hold the vision as well.