Question: When Russia invaded Ukraine and started the war, the response to Russian aggression from the EU was surprisingly united in imposing sanctions, denouncing Russian aggression and sending military and humanitarian aid to Ukraine. There was only one country which separated from the whole EU, namely Hungary. It tried to sabotage every initiative to impose sanctions on Russia, did not send any military aid to Ukraine, and was basically repeating Russian propaganda that Russia was forced to begin this special military operation because Ukrainians were only puppets of the evil Americans. Viktor Orban, the leader of Hungary, himself being a semi-autocrat, openly shows his friendship to Putin. It seems that he has popular support in his country on his foreign policy.
I think many other countries in the EU are starting to feel that it would be better if Hungary would leave the EU as it is now acting as an agent of the Kremlin. Would the masters like to comment about Hungary and its future in the EU?
Answer from the Ascended Master Saint Germain through Kim Michaels. This answer was given during the 2023 Kazakhstan Conference.
Well, let us step back a little bit and not focus specifically on Hungary, but realize that there are several nations in the EU where there are movements in those nations that are critical of, negative towards EU. You find it in Italy, you find it in France, you find it in Poland and other nations. It is not correct to say that Hungary stands alone in this. There are, in some countries, certain factions that are very critical of the EU, as you also saw in the United Kingdom, or the rather not-so-United Kingdom.
What needs to be seen here is that, first of all, there is an external opposition to the unity of the EU. Some of it coming from Russia, some of it coming from China, but really it comes from the fallen beings who want to prevent the EU from moving towards greater unity.
I have said before that my vision for the EU is that it becomes something similar to the United States of America. In other words, a more united Europe. And there are, of course, dark forces who will do whatever they can to prevent this from happening. And they will then work through anybody, any individual or any groups of people, where they can stir up this sense that the EU is more of a hindrance or a danger to the country. You see that the Polish government has done something fairly similar, even though in the question of the Ukrainian war, the Polish government was very supportive of Ukraine. But still, in other ways, it is very negative towards the EU.
You recognize here that there is a movement to destroy the unity of the EU, and they will use whatever individual or group of people that they can get to voice this criticism. It is up to each country, the people of each country, to decide what they actually want. And you may think that in some of these countries, you may think there is popular support for this critical EU attitude among the leaders. But it is actually not the case. There is in all countries, including Poland and Hungary, France and Italy, an overwhelming support among the people for membership of the EU and for the continued growth and development of the EU. I am not saying that this is spoken of openly, because what you usually hear in a public forum are the critical voices.
But nevertheless, there is, in the collective consciousness of Europe, still this very clear awareness of the wars, the First World War, the Second World War, even older wars, and how there has been so much conflict and bloodshed in Europe. And there is a very powerful movement in the collective consciousness that wants to move Europe away from the potential for conflict. This is essentially why you saw the united response of the EU to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. Because as we have said before, people just want to live a good life, and they want to know that they can build a better life for their own children, and there will be stability and prosperity in their country, so that their children can have a better life than they themselves had.
This is what the vast majority of the people in the EU, and for that matter in the rest of the world, want. You simply need to recognize that, if you look at it from the bigger perspective, the fallen beings are doing everything they can to prevent Europe from taking a decisive step towards greater unification. And they are trying to do this internally, but what they do not realize is that their efforts are basically futile. Because when the dark forces caused Russia to invade Ukraine, they also provided the strongest impulse in history towards greater unification of the EU. Because so many people can see that this is a direct threat to the peace and prosperity that has existed largely in Europe since the Second World War. And they do not want to go back to the insecurity that was there 70 or so years ago. You simply need to recognize that there are certain nations where there is, because of these nations’ history, a certain division in the collective psyche towards surrendering, as they see it, their national sovereignty, surrendering to a greater institution such as the EU.
But you also need to recognize that in these countries, especially Hungary and Poland and other countries that were in the Warsaw Pact, there is a collective awareness of what it meant to be under Russian dominance. And it does not matter what the leaders are saying, because the people remember. And if it came down to it, they would rather be dominated by the EU than by Russia. And it is clear that if Hungary were to leave the EU, it would have to forge closer ties with Russia. And most of the people in Hungary can see clearly what that would mean. It does not come cheap to align yourself with Russia, as Russia is right now. You have to recognize here that some of these leaders, whether you call them populist leaders or not, they have built themselves up by tying into this fear in the collective consciousness of being more integrated into the EU. It is kind of like Trump in the United States, who also built himself up by being against somebody. And you see the same thing in France and in Italy, where you have these leaders of political parties who are building themselves up by tying into the dissatisfaction with the current state of affairs.
If you step back from this, you realize that I am in no way saying that the EU is currently functioning in an ideal way. Of course, there is need for improvement. And in order for the EU to be more united and integrated, there are some big hurdles that need to be overcome. And it is clear that they need to be brought out in the open. They need to be discussed, and they need to be addressed so that it can gradually lead the way for a greater unification based on people’s acceptance, that they see that their concerns have been addressed, and that the EU can actually bring a positive development instead of being a controlling force. In a sense, you could say that these nations where there is dissatisfaction are simply serving to bring to the surface what needs to be overcome. It is not actually my assessment that there are countries in the EU who would like to see Hungary leave the EU, because they know very well what that would mean. It would give Russia an inroad on the European continent.
I think there is a growing awareness. I observe that there is a growing awareness among many EU politicians that there are certain concerns that need to be addressed and that have not so far been addressed. And that until they have been addressed openly, you cannot really move towards greater unification. The EU is sort of a little bit treading water in a stalemate, and it is because there are things that have not been addressed. Now it is clear that my vision for the unification of Europe is not based on force. It is not the way Hitler wanted to unify Europe. That is not my vision. My vision is based on democracy, which requires open communication and the addressing of various issues that countries may have. You can take a country like Poland, which when you look at the history has been overrun by this force and that force and the next force and for a long time did not exist as a separate country. And it is clear that there is the collective consciousness there that is reluctant to be swallowed up by this amorphous EU entity.
These are some very real concerns that need to be addressed. And until they are addressed openly, the EU cannot really move forward. But if they were to be addressed openly, you would also see that there would come a point where these critical politicians, it would become obvious that they did not have the support of their own people. In Poland, for example, the government is very critical of the EU, but opinion polls show consistently a very high support among the people for EU membership. There is a disconnect between the government and the people. And if the EU would address the situation in various countries openly, this disconnect would become more and more obvious until the government would simply have to change and realize that this is not a viable path for them to stay in power.
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