Question: The masters are saying that we should not project our matrix on the Ma-ter light, but other masters are saying that we are co-creating by using our four lower bodies and projecting what is in the four lower bodies on the Ma-ter light. So how can you co-create if you are not projecting?
Answer from Kim Michaels. This answer was given during the 2023 Kazakhstan Conference.
Well, it is actually, I think, not exactly what the masters are saying. The masters are not saying we should not project any matrix on the Ma-ter light, but they are, of course, saying that the Ma-ter light is like the cosmic mirror. Whatever we project is what comes back to us. If we are projecting through a separate self, that is what they are saying it would be better to avoid. It is not that we should not project at all. It is just that if we are projecting through a separate self, what we get back is, of course, a reflection of that.
When we free ourselves from the separate selves, we can project something more constructive on the Ma-ter light. And that is what we are meant to do because we are co-creators. But because we have a right to project through a separate self because of free will, we have a right to go into separation and duality and experience what that is like. Whatever we project, it is an opportunity for us to grow and look at ourselves and say: “Well, if I do not like what is coming back from the cosmic mirror, I have to change what I am projecting out.”
Aren’t they saying the River of Life will project with us or through us and that is the constructive part?
Yes, that is true. They are saying that. But that is still happening through the Conscious You and whatever structures we have in our four lower bodies and the I AM Presence. The River of Life, as I see it, does not go straight into the Conscious You. It goes through the I AM Presence and then to the Conscious You. It first goes through the individuality in the I AM Presence, as I see it right now. Maybe they’ll talk about this. But it is like maybe we should also make a distinction here that we have separate selves that are based on duality and separation, and they are the ones that we should strive to overcome. But the masters have also said that when we descend to the 48th level, we are taking on an illusion for each level above the 48th. And when we take on that illusion, we are creating a self. But it is not based on duality. It is really just a way for us to interact with the world. And as I see it, as I have walked the path, I have let go of not only many of the dualistic selves, but also many of these other selves.
And I think that when you reach the 144th level, you do not have that many selves left. But I think you can still have some selves that are like your personality–what makes you “you in embodiment.” I remember Elizabeth Clare Prophet one time was talking about how there could be people who had reached a high level of Christhood, but they did not become robots or nobody. They still had a certain personality. But it was just an outer personality that did not define them. Let’s say I reached the 144th level of consciousness when I am in embodiment. My body is still going to look the way it looks. I am still going to have blonde hair and blue eyes, because this does not define who I am. It is just a body. I can also still have a certain outer personality. Well, that is just the way I have expressed myself in this lifetime and past lifetimes. And there are selves, but it is not like they really matter that much. It is not that they are limiting me or holding me back because you could say just like you need a physical body, you need some personality to express yourself through.
Otherwise, how are you going to say anything? I think there comes a point where you let go of all that. Obviously, you let go of it when you ascend. And maybe you let go of it before, I do not know. But I just think that there are certain things that do not really matter. They do not hold you back–because what is the alternative? The alternative is that we all become alike and we all become almost like a non-person that has no personality whatsoever. And I do not really see that as the goal. But I am not sure. We’ll see what happens.
Comment: We just let the light so shine before men. It is the father, the I AM Presence, that goes before us.
Yes, that too. But now that I think about this, I have had a period where maybe over the last year I have been sort of struggling with this because I have in a sense felt that I do not really have any opinions anymore like I used to have. And I do not really have the same outer personality that I used to have. Who am I really? And there was somebody who asked me one time: “I see that you have changed. Who are you?” And what came out of my mouth was: “I am nobody.”
And I understand why I said it because at the time I felt I had overcome so many of these–what I used to see as parts of myself and my personality–that I did not really know who I was anymore. But after I started doing these YouTube videos, it is like I discovered that I have a certain personality. This is just my outer personality, just like my physical body. And what is the problem with that? I mean, I express myself a certain way. It is not like I am a robot. I just talk the way I talk.
There was a person who commented on one of my YouTube videos: “You are swinging your arms and it is distracting me.” And I did not answer it, but my thought was: “So what? This is how I speak. If you do not like it, there are a billion other YouTube videos out there. But I am not going to change myself. Why should I change?” You have to have some way of expressing yourself. It is again this talk about this concept of “no self” that they have come up with. It is like you become nobody.
But is that really the highest goal–to become nobody? So, I guess what I could say is: “I do not really know if this is somewhere in my four lower bodies or is it my I AM Presence.” And I think there are still some things in my four lower bodies that I have taken on by being in embodiment and I also have in this embodiment. But sometimes it is also the individuality of the I AM Presence that shines through. And I do not think I can tell the difference most of the time. I do not know that it is important to tell the difference because what I now consider my individuality may fade away. In a year it might be different. But so what? I just feel like you come to a point where you are not concerned about it. Like I am not concerned what level of consciousness I am at on the 144 levels. I am not comparing myself to other people. It just does not matter. I am who I am. I am striving to grow. And I do not want to analyze everything anymore. I just do not do that anymore. I do not have that facade, that standard that I need to compare myself to.
And that has been the liberation because most spiritual people I have met on the path, they have this tendency to be very focused on ourselves: Could we do things better? Did we do something wrong? Now I have also met people on the spiritual path who do not have that tendency. They are not looking at themselves. And they have no clue how other people are looking at them–because a certain number of people on the spiritual path are narcissists. And they have the typical narcissist behavior–no awareness of how they affect other people. And we have to find some balance in between there. But I also feel that this comes naturally because as I start having something to defend, I do not approach people as I did before of wanting them to agree with me. And if I do not want people to agree with me, I am not forcing them. I am just allowing them to have a different opinion if that is what they want to have. I do not even have the idea that I am right and they are wrong or that they should agree with me.
How am I forcing other people? How am I hurting other people by that? But I am still free to express how I see it, which I really was not before. I remember many times talking to people and I sensed: “Oh here is something they are really attached to. I do not want to offend them so let me not say anything.” But now today I am much more free to say things. There are still some times where I am diplomatic because I have never been the “in your face” type of person–at least that is how I see myself. Maybe some of you disagree. So I just feel like I have just become more relaxed, more free, and do not take things so seriously. And that is very liberating. And I see many of you who are going in the same direction and have made progress over several years, going in the same direction, being more free, more relaxed. And I see some of you have made progress but you still have a certain burden you are carrying. There is still something you have not quite let go of. And when I see those kinds of people, I see myself as I was four or five years ago.
I know that if I could overcome it, you can too. And it is just a matter of time before you come to that point where you see it: “Oh, I do not have to be like that. I do not have to be concerned about this.”
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