Did Padre Pio ascend?

TOPICS: Padre Pio not meant to seek leadership position - demonstrate the path to Christhood and mind over matter - prove that Jesus taught a path to Christhood that all can follow -

Question: Dear Jesus, I recently read a very inspiring book about the remarkable 20th Century saint, Padre Pio. I was wondering if Padre Pio is now among the ascended masters? Finally, as Padre Pio suffered much persecution from leaders in his own church, do you believe his stance of not speaking out against the misdeeds of these leaders was a proper one?


Answer from ascended master Jesus through Kim Michaels:

A similar, although not identical, consideration can be applied to Padre Pio as what I explained about John Paul II. LINK It was part of his divine plan that he would seek to reform the Church, but not by seeking a leadership position, as did John Paul. He already had great attainment, far greater than John Paul, before that embodiment. Yet he also failed to translate his inner vision and attainment into practical measures for reforming the Church.

It was part of Padre Pio’s divine plan that he should develop and express his so-called supernatural abilities and then use them to demonstrate that there is far more to my teachings than what is defined by Catholic doctrine. By demonstrating that when one follows in the footsteps of Christ, one attains mastery over matter itself, Padre Pio could have served as the instrument for making obvious the glaring need to reform Catholic doctrine, Catholic practices and the Catholic organizational structure.


If you read my comments about the Catholic Church on this website, especially my discourse, Follow me, not Peter, it is easy to conclude that the Catholic Church was, from its inception, based on a flawed interpretation of my teachings. The main problem being that the Church turned me into an idol and discouraged people from following my example and doing the works that I did. It is therefore true that there is a great need for reform in the Church. 


Yet there are different ways to go about this, and here are a few:

  • One approach is to reason that the Church is so far from my true teachings, and so steeped in centuries of tradition, that it is impossible to reform the Church from within. A person would then start another organization that was based on a higher interpretation of my teachings. In doing so, the person would challenge the very existence of the Church and its claim to be the only true Church of Christ. The person would challenge the Church as an institution and would also challenge at least some aspects of the outer doctrine. This approach is perfectly valid for some people, and it is indeed why the ascended masters have sponsored various organizations and messengers to give a higher understanding of my true teachings. Yet it was not Padre Pio’s approach.
  • Another approach is to reason that while the Church needs reform, it is still a viable organization, and thus it must be reformed from within. A person might challenge specific aspects of doctrine and the organizational structure, yet this is done by working within the existing structure and seeking incremental changes. Again, this is a perfectly valid approach (although with certain limitations), and it was taken by Pope John the 23rd, culminating in Vatican II. Yet neither was this Padre Pio’s approach.
  • Another approach is to embody the true teachings of Christ to the point where one demonstrates some mastery over matter, in what is often called supernatural abilities. By demonstrating these abilities, one would prove that it is possible for anyone to do the works that Christ did, and if this was genuinely accepted by the Church, it would lead to deep changes in every aspect of the organization. 

This last approach was, in fact, part of Padre Pio’s divine plan. Yet during his upbringing, he came to accept the authority of the outer church and its leadership as being unquestionable, and this caused him to hold back.


My point is that it was not Padre Pio’s role to challenge the Catholic Church as an organization or to start another church. Neither was it his role to challenge specific aspects of outer doctrine, such as the doctrine against reincarnation. And it was not his role to seek a position in church leadership. It was his role to demonstrate the embodiment of my inner teachings and thereby challenge church leadership to reform the church and bring it into alignment with my true, inner teachings, allowing all Catholics to openly follow my example.


Padre Pio decided to remain loyal to the outer Catholic Church and its power structure instead of challenging it by demonstrating Christhood. He was loyal to the outer church rather than to the true church, the inner church, of Christ. So I do indeed say that Padre Pio should have challenged church leaders, as I challenged the false leaders of the Jewish religion. It is always the role of Christed being to challenge the liar and his lie, although this challenge may not always be as direct as was mine. 


Imagine that Padre Pio had more openly demonstrated his supernatural abilities, which would have disproven the Catholic claim that I was the only one who could do such works. This could have had profound ramifications in terms of demonstrating that I actually taught a path to Christhood that all people have the potential to follow. Had Padre Pio accepted this mission, he could have set the foundation which other people, such as Pope John the 23rd could have built upon. Thus, the church could have been transformed into amore modern organization that could have met the spiritual needs of many of today’s spiritual seekers.


Instead of fulfilling his mission, Padre Pio decided to Minister to his flock in his local church, rather than to minister to the flock of all Catholics and beyond that all humans. You will see that this was a very narrow mission in comparison to what might have been.





Copyright © 2005 by Kim Michaels

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