The relationship between the I AM Presence and the soul

TOPICS: I AM Presence is only a concept given to help people relate to the spiritual realm - Conscious You has free will and can deny its connection to its source - Conscious You acts based on its sense of identity - Conscious You a self-aware being - it can become self-sufficient, self-contained but only through Christ consciousness and the ascension -

Question: Dear Jesus, I have some questions about the relationship between the I AM Presence and the Soul. Many people today are aware and accept that they are spiritual beings, however, I would guess that most do not realize they are actually a creation and extension of an I AM Presence, not a creation directly of God. Is it fair to say that we humans are not actually spiritual beings, or rather, that we are not whole spiritual beings, but only a part of another spiritual being and we remain only that part until we achieve Christ consciousness? For a long time I believed that my true spiritual identity, the identity I forgot when I descended to the material realm, was my I AM Presence. I’m now beginning to think that my I AM Presence is not, in fact, my true identity. My true identity is my Soul identity which is a spiritual being, self-contained, self aware and one with God. Would it be incorrect to state that, in a sense, I am separate from my I AM Presence, at least in regards to my individuality? 

When a Soul’s earthly lifetime ends and the Soul returns temporarily to the Spiritual Realm, awaiting reincarnation, what then is the relation between the Soul and the I AM Presence. I assume the Soul remains an individualized extension of the Presence, even though not incarnate. Does the Soul and the I AM Presence get together and talk about things face to face, so to speak? And what about when a Soul reaches full Christ consciousness? Can the Soul in some way shed its I AM Presence and become an I AM Presence unto itself, capable of creating its own Souls? 

 

Answer from ascended master Jesus through Kim Michaels:

 

Let me comment on the points you raise:


Many people today are aware and accept that they are spiritual beings, however, I would guess that most do not realize they are actually a creation and extension of an I AM Presence, not a creation directly of God.

 

That is true. Yet the value of knowing that you are not created directly by the highest expression of God is that it is easier for the Conscious You to gain a sense of connection and oneness with the spiritual being that is right above it in the spiritual hierarchy. In other words, all spiritual beings are part of a hierarchy that reaches all the way back to God. Although this hierarchy has innumerable individual beings, they are not separated from God. They are individualizations of and extensions of God, but they do form a hierarchy that has many layers. So for your lifestream, it is far easier to relate to the I AM Presence out of which you sprang than to relate to the highest manifestation of God which is many levels above you.

This is why the ascended masters released the concept of the I AM Presence. When you consider that words are linear and the spiritual reality is spherical, you will see that no matter which concept we use to describe the spiritual reality, there is always an inherent danger. If people take our description literally, the description can become a hindrance to people's understanding rather than being an aid to it.

My point is that the concept of an I AM Presence is just that: a concept. It is one way to describe the spiritual being out of which you came to life. It is not the only possible way, and it is not an absolute and unchangeable concept. One could as well say that your I AM Presence is actually a spiritual being. You are therefore an extension of, an individualization of, a spiritual being.

The problem with this concept is that because of the intense idolatry surrounding God and myself for thousands of years, most people will find it difficult to accept that they are extensions of an immortal spiritual being. That is why the ascended masters released the concept of the I AM Presence as a neutral way to help people relate to a being in the spiritual realm. For example, there are indeed people in embodiment today whose lifestreams were created out of a spiritual being, which we might call an I AM Presence, that has the status of an archangel. Yet how many people can accept that they are extensions of an archangel? How many people could accept that they are extensions of an ascended master, such as myself or Mother Mary?


Is it fair to say that we humans are not actually spiritual beings, or rather, that we are not whole spiritual beings, but only a part of another spiritual being and we remain only that part until we achieve Christ consciousness?

 

That is correct, and you have expressed it very eloquently. Although it must be added that because the Conscious You has free will, it has the potential to separate itself from the spiritual being that created it and therefore begin to see itself as being separated from that spiritual being.

One might say that because of free will there is the potential for a split in the Conscious You’s self-image and sense of reality. Nothing will change the fact that the Conscious You originated as an individualization of a spiritual being. Yet at the level of the Conscious You’s sense of self-awareness and identity, the Conscious You can create its own temporary reality. Because the Conscious You has free will, it will act according to how it perceives its own identity. In other words, if the Conscious You denies its spiritual source, then the Conscious You is no longer acting as an extension of that source. It has the potential to walk the path to Christ consciousness, and in so doing it will regain its connection to its source.

It is like my parable about the prodigal son (Luke 15:10). The son was lost in a strange country, so the father did not know if the son was still alive. He did not know if he had a son, and there was no guarantee that the son would ever return. One might say that for a time the son acted as if he had no father.


For a long time I believed that my true spiritual identity, the identity I forgot when I descended to the material realm, was my I AM Presence. I’m now beginning to think that my I AM Presence is not, in fact, my true identity.

 

This is where we run up against the limitations of words. In a sense you are correct, because, as I just said, the Conscious You is who it thinks it is. One can also say that the Conscious You has a sense of identity that is separate from the I AM Presence. That is why you can choose to build a sense of identity as a mortal being instead of an individualization of a spiritual being.

On the other hand, the Conscious You has no inherent individuality; it is an extension of the individuality of your I AM Presence. Your true spiritual individuality is permanently anchored and preserved in your Presence until you achieve full Christ consciousness. In other words, even when the Conscious You descends into a lower state of consciousness, your individuality is not lost or permanently altered. When you attain contact with your Christ self, you can reconnect to that true individuality, and you can then begin to build upon it based on your experiences in the material realm.

My point is that the Conscious You was created as an extension of the I AM Presence, and it was sent into the world with the command to multiply and take dominion. You are to take dominion over your own sense of self, over your physical body and the outer mind and over your personal circumstances. You are then to use that dominion to multiply your talents, to multiply the individuality given to you, so that you become more than you were created to be by your I AM Presence.


My true identity is my Soul identity which is a spiritual being, self-contained, self-aware and one with God.

 

Your statement is correct for a lifestream who has attained Christ consciousness. Until you attain Christ consciousness, the lifestream is not truly a spiritual being. The Conscious You is not self-contained and it will not feel complete until it reestablishes contact with the I AM Presence. The Conscious You is self-aware, but it does not have full or true self-awareness. Therefore, it cannot see itself as an extension of a hierarchy of spiritual beings reaching all the way back to God.


Would it be incorrect to state that, in a sense, I am separate from my I AM Presence, at least in regards to my individuality?

 

Again, this is where linear words cannot quite describe the reality of the situation. Let me attempt to use a metaphor.

A couple goes to the beach with their young child. They spread out a blanket and after they have eaten lunch, the child begins to move away from the parents and ends up digging in the sand close to the water’s edge. The child is an individual human being, yet the child is not separated from its parents and could not survive without them. The child does not feel that he is separated from the parents, because even though he is some distance away from them, he knows they are right there when he needs them. So although the child is a separate human being, he does not feel separated from his parents.

Now imagine that the child became caught up in playing in the sand and forgot about his parents for a few minutes. When he looked up, he discovered that the parents were gone and nowhere to be seen. At that moment, the child will feel a fear-based sense of separation from its parents. Yet if the parents had not disappeared, the child might never have developed this sense of separation.

Likewise, the Conscious You is meant to venture into the material world without ever developing a fear-based sense of separation from its spiritual source. It is meant to roam the material universe while feeling the security of knowing that its I AM Presence is always there for it. In the natural scheme of things, the Conscious You would remain in this childlike innocence and trust until it gradually attained a mature sense of self-awareness that enabled it to become a truly self-sufficient, self-contained spiritual being. This is what I call full Christhood, and in other religions it has been called other things, such as enlightenment.

 

The sense of being separated from the I AM Presence comes when the Conscious You identifies itself with the 4-fold vehicle that is has created based on the duality consciousness, as I explain in another answer.


When a Soul’s earthly lifetime ends and the Soul returns temporarily to the Spiritual Realm, awaiting reincarnation, what then is the relation between the Soul and the I AM Presence. I assume the Soul remains an individualized extension of the Presence, even though not incarnate. Does the Soul and the I AM Presence get together and talk about things face to face, so to speak?

 

 

This all depends on the state of consciousness of your 4-fold vehicle and how much the Conscious You identifies itself with the soul vehicle. Most people on earth have descended into such a low state of consciousness that they have lost the connection to and the memory of their I AM Presence. If the Conscious You is very identified with the 4-fold vehicle after it leaves embodiment, it cannot reach high enough to communicate with the I AM Presence. Some of these lifestreams go to etheric retreats, where they are assisted by spiritual teachers. Others end up in the mental or emotional levels between embodiments, as I explain elsewhere.

Yet it is true that between embodiments most lifestreams have a broader sense of awareness than they have while they are in a physical body. The Conscious You is no longer as restricted by the 4-fold vehicle or the outer mind and brain that are a product of the physical body. Therefore, many lifestreams do have a higher sense of awareness and understanding than while they were in embodiment. It is like the difference between looking at the landscape from inside a house, where you can look through only one window at a time, and standing on the roof of that house where you have a panoramic view.


And what about when a Soul reaches full Christ consciousness? Can the Soul in some way shed its I AM Presence and become an I AM Presence unto itself, capable of creating its own Souls?

 

When the Conscious You reaches full Christ consciousness, it becomes a self-contained spiritual being that radiates light directly from inside itself. In other words, before the Conscious You attains Christ consciousness it can exist only because it receives spiritual energy from the I AM Presence. That energy is truly God’s light and it is not produced by the I AM Presence. The Presence simply serves as a conduit through which the light of God streams from the universal source. Yet because the Conscious You has not become self-sufficient, it cannot absorb the light from its source. Therefore, it must receive that light from the Presence.

When the Conscious You attains full Christ consciousness, it realizes that because it is an extension of the I AM Presence and because the I AM Presence is an extension of the universal source, the Conscious You can call upon the light of God directly from the source. At that point it becomes an immortal spiritual being, just as its I AM Presence is an immortal spiritual being. The immortalized or ascended being can then create a Conscious You out of itself.

This does not mean that the Conscious You technically sheds its I AM Presence. It means that the Conscious You becomes a spiritual being in the chain of hierarchy, and the I AM Presence is right above the Conscious You in that hierarchy.

Always remember the difference between trying to understand something with your outer mind and understanding it with the multidimensional mind of Christ. So the real key to understanding these issues is to let this mind be in you, which was also in me. You will then be able to understand and internalize what cannot adequately be expressed in words.

 

 

 

 

Copyright © 2004 by Kim Michaels

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