Fragmentation of nation states and the future of EU

Question: I would like to ask a question about this phenomenon recently in Spain, certain regions they want to secede from the rest of the country after reaching a certain state of affluence and wealth, and I have seen this happening in California. If the masters want to comment about the consciousness behind this.

Answer by Ascended Master Saint Germain through Kim Michaels, given at a conference in Estonia 2017.

I have just explained that, as the boundaries of nation states begin to soften, it is possible that several nation states will join together, either as one nation or as a region, and that eventually boundaries between nation states will disappear.

It may seem contradictory what I will say now, but the fact of the matter is that there are some nations that are today nation states, but they were created for a particular political reason that may have had some relevance in a historical period centuries or even decades ago, but that is not necessarily something that has relevance today or will have it in the future. When you look at the map of Europe, you certainly have some nations that really do not necessarily need to exist. You have some of the larger nations who have certain regions where, by force, that particular region, with a clearly different ethnic group or history, was forced to join that nation.

Actually, as part of the softening of the consciousness of nation states, you can see a period where there will be certain groups of people who will develop a strong desire to withdraw from the country in which they felt they were forced to join in the past. I mentioned Scotland, and certainly we could say that the Scottish people have a national awareness that is different enough from England that it could perfectly well be valid for them to have a separate nation, and if they wanted to be able to join the EU instead of being forced to withdraw along with the rest of Britain.

There are other nations in other countries in Europe where the same phenomenon could happen. You have already seen it, to some degree, how the former Czechoslovakia was split into two different nations. Really, what is happening in Spain is not that different. Now, this is not to say that I necessarily say that the outcome of the situation needs to be that Spain splits into two different nations. It could also be that what is going on there makes the Spanish government and the Spanish people realize that perhaps they need to create certain regions and give them, not necessarily the autonomy they have now, but create a certain change in the national attitude where you cannot, as the Spanish government, take these people for granted. You need to actually treat them with a greater degree of respect than you have done so far.

This is a complex issue that does not have a simple solution, but we can say so much that we will see more of this happening not only in Europe, but in many other areas of the world where there will be a certain particular group that, for various historical reasons, have been drawn into a particular nation. They will want to have either autonomy or completely withdraw and form a separate nation. They must then be allowed to do this because it is a natural stage in their national consciousness. It is also a natural stage in the home country’s national development that they allow these people to separate themselves out and therefore make the adjustments to the national consciousness that this will require.

What you see generally around the world, and certainly in Europe as well, is that you have certain nation states that were created by force, by forcefully conquering territory and suppressing other groups of people, forcing them to join that nation. There is a need to go back and look at this, and in a more peaceful, non-violent age, consider whether what happened by force in the past should necessarily be upheld in the present.

Now, I know that the EU has taken a strong stand against the people in Spain who want to secede because they do not want to split up the EU into more states. This is actually an example of where the leaders of the EU are out of alignment with the mind of Saint Germain, with the plans for the Golden Age. I understand that the leaders are afraid of conflict in Europe because they do want to go back to a state where there is war, or warring, between the nation states of Europe.

Nevertheless, it is inevitable that the EU must look at some of these issues and say: “Are there some states that really were created artificially and really do not need to exist?” An obvious example is Belgium, which was created in a rather artificial way, and therefore you can debate whether a Belgium that is divided into two parts should really be split up so that the two parts could join Holland and France.

I am not saying there is only one solution to this, but it needs to be debated, and the EU needs to be willing to look at these issues because you cannot take a snapshot of history and say that the way Europe was when the EU was created (the nation states that were there when the EU was created) that they need to be upheld forever. You need to be aware that there can be certain groups of people who felt forced into a nation state and in order to create a strong, unified EU, you must deal with those people and their concerns, and their rights.

I am not saying that there is a short-term solution to this issue, but I am saying that both the Spanish government and the EU are not in attunement with the Golden Age consciousness or they would have taken a much softer, more gradual approach to this issue. They would have been willing to discuss it and debate it, instead of basically trying to suppress what can only be considered a democratic movement within Spain.


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